Kouchner Does Iran
September 17, 2007
Israel’s man at the Quai d’Orsay and renowned warmonger, Bernard Kouchner, is settling comfortably into his new role — he has just threatened war. However, this time he appears to have gotten ahead of himself. Even the generally staid IAEA has been impelled to rebuke his crude warmongering (recall that in the past Kouchner has been wise enough to cloak his martial ambitions in humanitarian garb), along with the generally restrained Austrians.
It is not clear how the rest of France feels about Iran’s alleged nuclear ambitions, but the lobby has for some time been annoyed with IAEA’s refusal to play ball (even though IAEA inspectors have been turning over data from their tours of Irani nuclear facilities to Israeli and US intelligence ever since Iran began the voluntary cooperation. I emphasize the ‘voluntary’ because Iran is not required through its NPT obligations to submit to these inspections). It has been ratcheting up its rhetoric to pressure the agency into taking a more hardline position. The lobby is also concerned with the recent focus on its role in urging US on towards the Iraq war; a new war will relieve the pressure, albeit temporarily, as the nation will predictably respond with characteristic jingoism, lining up behind ‘our boys’.
Like Tariq Ali, even some astute observers have been dismissing the possibility of war too lightly. Col. Sam Gardiner of the USAF who was here in Glasgow recently in fact believes (based on information from insiders) that the decision to bomb Iran has already been taken. And if you think war with Iran is too improbable, then this article from Jean Bricmont should disabuse you of such false complacence.
It would be quite accurate to call the war on Iran” war to liberat Iraq from Iranian occupation”
Just as you and your ilk helped America ‘liberate’ Iraq from Iraqis?
Lest anyone forget, America only managed to destroy Iraq, because the cowardly Arab leaders of the region were willing to provide bases for its military operation. In the meanwhile the so called ‘Arab street’ was busy watching Egyptian soap operas or entertaining the rest of the world with their refined art of belly dancing.
Dear M Idris,
You are much more knowledgable and intelligent than I am. Therefore, I find the way you mix up issues very strange! I have no respct for the visionless Arab/Muslim leaders- Arab street on the other hand, is demoralised, put down and struck by poverty corruption, you just name it.
Never the less, that has got absolutely nothing to do whatsoever with the fact the Iran is actively collaborated with the U.S invasion of Iraq- not by silence and passive acceptance ( or even implicit encouragment like Kuwaities and Saudis) like Arabs.
Whether you want to speak aboput it or not, Iran is the eternal enemy of Iraq….. Iranians( not shiites) are penetrating Iraqi instittions and controlling the country……….
Irani elements and client militias are responsible for the horrendous ethnic cleansing of Arabs in Iraq. And that it is not sectarian cleansing becuase the SHIITE Arab clans in the south that oppose the Iranian presence are subjected to the same presence. It is well documnted well resourced one million Iranians crossed the border crossed with invasion where they are settling in the south , as the Arabs are being displaced by the pro-Iran militias.
It is also important to highlight that those who are in power in Iraq are Iranians and not Iraqis, simply because they faught with th horrible Khomeini and the Iranian enemy against their own country……….The majority of the shiites in Iraq faught Iran very well as they constituted key elemnts among baathists and the elite republican guards army. Moreover, a considerable amount of the Badr elemnts desend from Irani origins that’s why they were kicked out of Iraq in the seventies just before the war of defence against the fanatic Iranian hords.
And why go so far, you have admitted in one of your posts that scir is responsble for instigating sectarian killings- and we both know very well that it is finaced trained, backed as well as inclusing many Iranian elemnts among its ranks! Aziz Hakim said literally in words” Iam Iranian”………
And I dont think it really takes a straTegic genius to figure out the very simple fact tha many Muslims hypocrytically opt to overlook a ver simple fact, and that is, Iran’s BEST INTERETS LIES IN fueling sctarian polarisations in Iraq ( and Afghanistan, we need not forget the dirty role Iranis playing with Afghani shiites) and the middle east in general, because that is the only possible way that extremely nationlistic cunning nation could nourish some influence in the predominatly sunni Muslim world. For it likes to put itself forward as the vanguard of Islam and protector of shiites.
I sincerely hope that you would once just once tackly the coreline of the Irani role in Iraq without dodging it as usual
Iran is actively collaborated with the U.S invasion of Iraq- not by silence and passive acceptance ( or even implicit encouragment like Kuwaities and Saudis) like Arabs.
Whether you want to speak aboput it or not, Iran is the eternal enemy of Iraq….. Iranians( not shiites) are penetrating Iraqi instittions and controlling the country……….
Iraq has been bombed and invaded from bases in Qatar, Kuwait, UAE and Saudi — why are they not the ‘eternal enemy of Iraq’? US-Israeli war against Islamic countries is waged with the assistance of Egypt and Jordan — both have been the preferred destinations for US rendition flights. How come they escape your attention?
I think your hatred is purely sectarian, and has nothing to do with the fact of Iraqi misery. Iraq’s destruction has been aided and abetted by fellow Arabs, and I have yet to hear you say a word about it.
I was in the Gulf when the war strated, and guess what? the only people who showed any anger in the form of demonstrations were not Arabs, but actually immigrant workers from Indonesia, India, Pakistan etc.
Iraq has faced a major catastrophe today, and for that Arab active support bears much more responsibility than Iranian inaction.
So, you are actually giving excuse for the Iranis to kill Iraqi Arabs because the dwarfic, migid gulf states couldnt say no to Americans using their bases to bomb Iraq. Those sheihks owe their exitance to the American military which protected them from the nationlist streams of Nasser and Sadam.
The worst kind of argument is when a thief says why arrest me there is a guy in the building the other way across who is stealing as well!
Moreover, the Arab betrayal which no one who enjoys a minimum level of sanity could deny, can not be comapred with the hands on Iranin crimes. Arabs are not killing , driling and acidifying Iraqis- The traitor lowlife Arabs ( I consider them so) are not changing the demography of Iraq and dispalcing Iraqis from their homes, in orde to make way for the Persian hords.
Last but not least, what counts here is Iraqis, the majority of IRAQIS except for the the minority of Iranised elemnts and those who come from an Irani origin- hate, despise and disgust everything Iranian- while they still feel very bitter at the Arabs rhenocoreses for letting them down. But still they would prefer Arabs to the horrible fanatic barabrian Iranians
A summary of amre el abayd’s arguments: sectarian bullshit.
And I think I pointed it out once before: the more we have this sectarian crap, the stronger Yankee imperialism becomes.
Why is the Iraqi national resistance unable to form one united hammer and smash the Western colonialists?
Because there are people like amar el abayd among both the Shias and the Sunnis.
Amre al Abyad,
Don’t mistake me for an iranian or a shia. I have got something to tell you.
You and the people around you should wake up. you will be at loss if you celebrate sectarianism and haterd. The regimes in your country (Egypt) and rest of the arab world have given you none except screwing the dignity of you and rest of their citizens.
These regimes have been obedient to the western interests at the cost of the interests of their citizens. Your regimes do these to you because they are corrupt. they screw your intersts to serve west so that their regimes sovereignty would be respected in the west. They have woo their recognition for their regime in this foul way, because they did not come to power through real democracy.
For the reason of the threat to their foul regimes, they oppose the elected goverments in few muslim countries. You know: they oppose Iran, Hamas and Syria.
The arab regimes concentrate mostly on making themselves to survive. They concentrate none on your developement. Just open an university website of any arab country where a monarch or a president came through rigged-election rule. simultaneously open an university website of say Turkey or Iran or even Lebanon. You will find lot of diffenece.
The scientific research papers from Islamic world is very minimal in general. If at all I see any research papers from islamic countries in my my area of research, it is either from Iran or from Turkey (sometimes labenon). Even Muslims from India boast well comparing to your Arab-regimes though they face many religious discriminations to some extent. You people are rich, but government make sure that you study nothing in your countries.
Further they fool you by posing themselves as a protecter of religion by enforcing the corrupt and fundamentalistic form of Islam – Wahhabism on their citizen and at the same time they serve as the slaves of west to protect their hold on the countries.
Now wake-up. if you find any movement to bring these regimes down and establish democracy, join them.
Form a democracy like Turkey or Iran or Malaysia
Crimson East suffers a very dysfunctional brain!!!
It very clear that he knows no shit about Iraq or the Arab despise of IRANIANS .
Nobody here is talking about shiites and sunis Mr!!!!!!!!!!!we are talking about Iraqi Arabs and IRANIANS….Arabs and Iranians do I have to repeat 10 times so you would understand!? Arabs despise Iranians and consider them to be barabrians
Iraq is secular state predomiantly Arabic- the barabric, fanatic retarded Iranians are highlighting sectarian discourse to enter into th arab world- that will neve happen- we slew them in 1988 and we will do anything we could to keep their dirty hands off Iraq.
“Why is the Iraqi national resistance unable to form one united hammer and smash the Western colonialists?
Because there are people like amar el abayd among both the Shias and the Sunnis.”
My goodness- you havent got a clue about what you are talking about
Iraqi resitance is fighting in addition to the U.S and Britain -Iran and its agents aka Irani el-quds legion, “Ital3at” or Iranian intelligence elemnts, Badr brigades which are made up of Iranians and Iraqis who fought with the Iranian enemy agaionst Arabs during the war of defence agisnt th fantic horrible Iranians.
Dear Crimson East
Key elemnts in th Iraqi heroic elite republican guards army were shiites, top baathists were shiites- and it was shiites that broke Iran and forced their terrorist horrible Khomeini to sip poison and eventually killed the freak.
Does this teach you something about the nature of the conflict in Iraq?
One piece of advice- there is new play station game called Che Guevara 2000 , go and buy it- also don’t forget to some toys store- Iam sure you will look very attractive to blonds in the Guevara outfit
Allah hafiz
Al-Jazeera has aired an interview with the leader of the ISLAMIC army in Iraq Ibrahim Al-SAHMMRY…………..The interview is found on Abou Aardvark’s blog.
Here is the link: http://abuaardvark.typepad.com/abuaardvark/2007/09/ibrahim-shammar.html#comments
Master physict
since you have aroused the issue:
here is a comparison between the state of knoweldge of Egypt at its worst and Iran:
Egypt 3 noble prize winners only in the nineties and the 21 century one in chemistry and oben in literature.
Egyptian Cairo university- the only islamic university among the best 500 hundred in the world.
other universties are among the best though arew not classified as Egyptian german, french, American
Stat of industry: Egypt produces M1A1 tanks withan added value 95% – Egyptian technology is main source of the North korean shehabs with which Iran is fooling people like you.
Nuclear technology: According the Nuclear non proliferation agency Egypt is the only middle eastern country apart of Israel with indigenpous know how and technology to go Nuclear- Descision here is political
Egyptian Nuclear scientist the fatherof Iraqi reactor was killed by Mosad in 1981- Egyptian atomic scientist Samira mossa killed by mossad i sixties………..
Israelians dont do th same with Iran-simply because they dont view Iran as strategic enemy: please read the paers from jaffee centre, Tel aviv university and you will find out that that Israeli planners pose Egypt as its number one enmy and the most potent threat…..Iran is paper tiger for them……..
CAPISHE!!!!!!
Egypt an oiless resourcless country that went into 7 wars from 1948 to 1973 including a 5 years guerilla war i yemen has more or less the same GDP as Iran.
women rights Egyptian women are pious muslims, yet they have the right to divorce themselves travel without permission and wear whatever they ewant, yet the majority opt by their own will to stick to the moderate islamic code.
Freedom- Egyptian press crrack down directly on the president- something No Iranian can do with Ali Khameini
concept of demoracy is restricted to pseudo tranparent elections dominated by council of rotten demagogues who posess the actual power not the elected present where they more or less decide on the results of the elections
Egyptian thinkers can poenly reject Islam – something no Iranian can do but still Egyptians are very pious Muslim people.
Now Just as a present for Iranians:
According to U.N developmental report and unicef- the small Iraq which went through an 8 years devastating war against Iran- approached western European standards in health care, access to education, women rights, child labour control. Illetracy in Iraq was Niel
Moreover, the level technological growth in Iraq was posing it to be a first world nation in the nineties.
Conclusion:
Fuck Iran
3 christian mimisters in the Egyptian cabinet + a woman minister.
Milrtary efficency and industralisation: according to Anthony cordseman Egypt is seconfd only to Israel.
one more point- I love pakistanis and I go for an integration between muslim countries especiialy Pakistan
What I dont understand is why do pakistanis consider pan arabism posed against islamis and muslim integration
an arab nation is pre-requiste for an Islamic Umma
If the Iranians are able to maintain a nation despite of the vast ethnic and linguistic groups that inhabit Iran, then there is no reason why the Arabs can’t have a nation.
integration betweeen Arabs and Muslims within th framework of an iSLAMIC GLOBE must and has to exclude Iran. We hate those barabrian enemires and we dont accept them . So take it or leave it
lOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR COMMENT ON MY POST
Certainly Master Physicist is right to link regressive interpretations of Islam like Wahabism with Arab regimes willing to collude with US imperialism but one could extend this critique to Iran too.
It was the Fedayeen-e Islam Iranian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood who joined the Western elite-sponsored globalists plot at the Aspen Institute and the Club of Rome to install a fundamentalist regime in Iran in 1979.
The fundamentalists also controlled the drug traffic to which the Shah posed a direct threat and this made them natural allies of….you guessed it the US.
The globalists sought once and for all to end the (what they regarded as the absurd)pretensions of the Shah and his Peoples Revolution to Great Power status.At the Persophilis Symposium in 1975 Aspen globalists plotted to reverse Iran’s modernization programme especially her nuclear power development and infrastructural development.
They used their fundamentalist allies to promote the synthetic zero sum version of Islam that pervades the media coverage we are bombarded with to this day.
So,what hangs in the balance is the US will to remove the Islamic bogey state they helped create as it vies with the Brezinski geostrategic plan for an “Arc of Crisis” across the region.
Western elites have always favoured a “Limits to Growth” restriction against developing nations in the oil and gas regions of the Middle East and Central Asia.Islamist groups have acquiesced in this strategy.
Has Iran really modernized as many claim or has the fundamentalist leadership failed to carry with it the dynamic moderate majority including sections of the industrial working class who backed the modernization under the Shah?
I suspect the US has once again typically underestimated its enemy.The strategy of Western globalist elites spearheaded by US foreign policy helmsmen such as Brezinski and Kissinger has always assumed the pliability of those they would dominate.
The Globalist/Islamist strategy worked in Iran in 1979,Pakistan and Aghanistan in the late 70s and early 80s.It has been of limited value in a vast secular state like Iraq.
The question for Bush et al is:
Feel lucky,punk?
Amre: Egyptians may be second to Isarel in their military prowess (and what an achievement that is! a military which has twice faced sound defeat at the hands of a rag-tag guerrilla force), but they are second to none when it comes to being objects of ridicule on western media. Perhaps the eager acceptance of their role as useful idiots for US-Zionist imperialism explains this low regard.
Mi diris fuck Iran….Egyptian missiles and strategic planners and chemical weapons slew them in El-FAO. A fact known by all IRAQIS and Anthony Cordseman.
Face it dude Egypt is sole country in the Muslim world that TOOK LAND FROM iSRAEL BY FORCE..Iran never fired a bullet on israel
http://www.el-shazly.com/…READ WHAT THE ECONOMIST HAD TO SAY……..
why go far check Ariel sharon’s- in 1974 whose armourd division was wiped out by a light battelion- intervirw with BBC in 1974 where he said that going to war against Egypt is a big mistake…..they were not humans, they faced tanks with infantry
I tell you m idris Iranians are not Arabs they are not welcome here we gassed them in 1988…….and we will kill them again if they dont get out of the land of their masters in Iraq.
the persian shouldnt forget himslef try to make himslef equal to his egyptian Arab master.
One more thing, For us Egyptians and Arabs, unfortunately ( I don’t like this of course) Persians are like niggers and blacks( I hate this as well but that is the disposition of Arab majority)………nothing can change that it is in the subconscious of Arabs
Kind regards
http://www.el-shazly.com/
link in the above post was not right
Face it dude Egypt is sole country in the Muslim world that TOOK LAND FROM iSRAEL BY FORCE..
Did it? As far as I am aware, it had a whole lot of land taken from it twice, which was only relinquished due to Carter’s intervention.
Iran never fired a bullet on israel
Neither did Indonesia. That is because Israel never went to war with either one of them.
One more thing, For us Egyptians and Arabs, unfortunately ( I don’t like this of course) Persians are like niggers and blacks( I hate this as well but that is the disposition of Arab majority)………
Funny, because that is precisely the disposition of the Western majority towards Arabs. It doesn’t say anything about ‘persians’ or Arabs, since no two individuals are the same. But it does say a lot about the ignorance and stupidity of the cultures where such prejudice is tolerated.
This will be the last post you make here, as I have no time for racists or neocon tools. You are too blinded by your sectarian prejudices to be open to reason. The aim of this blog is to expose and help rollback Zionist and US designs on the Middle East, not to assist imperial divide-and-conquer.
“One more thing, For us Egyptians and Arabs, unfortunately ( I don’t like this of course) Persians are like niggers and blacks( I hate this as well but that is the disposition of Arab majority)………”
Amre
Once an American had told me that he thought Arabs were not fully developed humans, they were a creature between an ape and a man. Being a Muslim(non.arab)I was really offended but after reading some of your posts I realized that May be the American was not so wrong in his judgement. You really fall between an ape and a man.
Let’s see, wasn’t the 6-days war an Egyptian legacy?
Oh, the Nasserites were going to wipe the Israelis off the pure Arabic land or something, no?
CE:
Aren’t you being unkind to the apes?
(Sorry M.Idrees the STRANGE hatred of this creature baffles me.)
Who needs Americans and Israelis, when we have ‘arabs’ like Amre.
This will be the last post you make here, as I have no time for racists or neocon tools
hey what happened to your ideals Mr idealistic academic?
I was simply puting in a view shared by the majority of Iraqi victims-including many shiites- about the Irani criminal role in Iraq. Have you read the Islamic army leader’s statements? Haven’t you?
It is you who resort to childish tit tats about irrelvent issues- which in turn gives me the right to retaliate. Instaed of censoring- you could simply argue with me using reason- or just let the readers judge!
capiche!
Just for the record by the end of 1973 Egypt liberated 12000km2, Israel occupied 6000km2. Israel besieged the Egyptian third army- in the mean while he Israeli force on the west bank was held captive to the Egyptians.
So according to Ariel sharon’s statements. Our forces on the west bank which made up the bulk of our army in the southern front- was held captive by the Egyptian. That in tun affected our stance in the disengagment agreemn which resulted in further isaraeli withdrawal in addition to the liberated 12000 km2 from the 25 % of Sinai + the withdrawal of the Israeli troops on the west bank
It was a good idea to ban amar el-abayd from this blog.
See, there is a part of me that wants to believe that this person was probably an imperialist troll from one of the many Zionist or Yankee-supremacist blogs all over the net.
But then, I remember that there are all sorts of sectarian fools in the Muslim world itself.